and i believe there are people in this country that want to see the country unite and prosper than those who want to see the hate and division. you have to go and articulate it. you have to go fight for it and i believe you have to call this president on his bs which vice president biden -- >> you can call him on it. you have to be better than it and then you have the policy piece also. let me ask you one question about that. the vp says you go with a plan like bernie sanders, you know, i'm paraphrasing, medicare is gone, all the medicare you have is gone. that's not true. why is he saying that? >> well, i think what he's really saying if you look at bernie sanders' plan, which is a real plan, but what it would do is, it would eliminate private insurance. >> it wouldn't eliminate medicare, though. it would increase coverage. >> it raises taxes on everybody -- >> it does. that's about cost. not coverage. >> our plan -- and by the way, that plan doesn't come to