hour or so into a situation, we should never overstate the facts. but i've talked to our police commissioner and our deputy commissioner who handles counterterrorism. from what we're seeing at the moment, this is simply a mechanical problem and one that sounds like it is addressable in a reasonable period of time. >> has con edison, do you know, identified exactly what the problem is? >> i don't have the details but i know that they know where the problem occurred in their system. it is there in the west side of manhattan where it occurred. to the best of my understanding, one of the lines between their substations had a problem. at this point, limitit is limit that one part of the city, which is a business part, but it's limited and hopefully will stay there. >> first it was 27,000 people without power, then 40,000 people without power, now it's