this, i mean robert mueller if you like is a kind of -- is the embodiment of the fbi which is about political stability at home and the intelligence services which is about america's global role. people suspect that president trump -- they fear president trump is damaging both. and i think that what they want really is something more definitive, which might add fuel to the impeachment process or impeachment drive which many democrats are demanding at this particular time in order to try to effectively bring this matter to a close early. >> and the question remains whether this delay works in democrats' favor or works against them as far as keeping this focus in play. i also want to switch to ask a question here about the resignation of the labor secretary alex acosta. president trump you heard in the interview just a moment ago made it clear that this was acosta's decision to resign, not because mr. trump told reporters -- he said rather this was him, not