to that saying he seen pledty of dead children on the job telling the committee they quote died at the hands of people that crossed the border because we have an open border. there is shouting on all sides of this issue and border and we've seen so far caged kids and overcrowded cells and families being separated. what we haven't seen is real effort to come up with a comprehensive policy that can once and for all address this issue that continues to divide families and divide this country. before getting to what the vice president had to say to pamela brown in a facility today, i want to show you some of the video that she took on her cell phone at the adult detention facility in mcallen. it's crowded and men are wearing dirty clothes, the spench we're told horrib -- stench horrible. pam tells us what she saw in the interview. pam. >> reporter: anderson, i'm here in mcallen texas in a facility that holds single adults and i