talk about it and put more money into it. >> talking about it is huge. that's why i bring up hunter. you've been hearing about your son. you got in this race, you knew everything they could find about hunter was going to come back, business, we'll see what they do with him having a mental health struggle. but discussing it as something you can beat, something you can treat already that's a different dialogue than we're used to hearing. curing cancer, that would mean so much, getting people to accept that mental illness is the same as any other malady, that could be huge as well. >> it's gigantic, and it's doable, it is doable. the idea that somehow -- think of all the people out there, chris, who don't -- one of the things we should be debating in this campaign is health care. whether or not we have the adequate -- what's the best way to get health care? when barack -- what barack did, the affordable health care, we