something that's wrong. >> reporter: so if you go back in tradition, things were always private. it was the cambridges that changed that, inviting cameras in to capture the arrivals for the christenings of their children. it's clear the sussexs want to do things differently and a clear message that they'll bring up archie as a private citizen. john? >> i don't accept that. i don't accept that conclusion, max. >> i'm sorry. these folks -- they play a public role. in is their baby's christening it makes sense to keep -- >> no, he's everybody's baby. he's the british baby, the royal family baby, and i want to see that baby. mostly i want to see it -- >> oh, you will. just not in realtime. >> you sure? we haven't seen him yet. >> they'll have photos. >> if you say so. in non-monarchy news, cnn has a exclusive interview with joe biden. "new day" continues right now. >> there should be health care