>> whether it backfires -- for donald trump personally, that depends on the election in november 2020. this is part of what will be an ongoing series of events, designed to highlight this individual as frerepresenting america. we have to see if americans support that running for a second term. in the meantime, we are talking about a country, how it defines itself. we've gone through a rough few years. and the attempt to frame the fourth of july has been a self-celebration. a celebration of ego. a celebration of glory that is attached to one individual. that's not a positive america, at least for me. >> all right. i do want to cover another issue quickly, after defying last week's supreme court decision to reject adding the citizenship question to the 2020 census. the trump administration has dropped plans to pursue it. the president is not happy about it. what do you think changed their determination to fight this? >> they ran out of time. two things.