democrats as well. it's complicated on both sides because the one thing mueller will make clear is there really was no conclusion, which is what trump was saying all along. >> and i think that's why nancy pelosi has been holding back. because the underlying claim mueller does not back that up. now you're in a situation it's the cover-up of a noncrime you want to go after. at the same time you can't just let the president of the united states do whatever he wants to do and have no accountability? >> can i just jump in here with a point about the no collusion argument. what mueller said was that there was no proof of a criminal conspiracy on the part of trump or his campaign to work with the russians on the -- to elect him president. that is a different thing from saying there is no evidence. what he found was there was insufficient evidence to build a case. and i think that distinction, if he outlines it directly i think