have now speck. family apprehensions have hit their highest points. for all president trump's tough talk about mass deportations, president obama actually deported far more undocumented on an annual basis. while president trump demonized immigration, the numbers have gotten worse under his watch. in the end any real attempt to deal with this problem will require a balanced plan that can get through both houses of congress. one to recognize you can't round up 12 million immigrants. we renew the american dream by those who came into this country illegally can come out of shadows. those are my words. that was mike pence back when he supported bipartisan immigration reform. >> dropping the pence hammer. that was the pence hammer right there. >> that was interesting. we all just wait to see what happens next week with this threat of more deportations.