very serious question, nina. how does the average voter -- >> it's interesting that you -- >> well, the question -- how does the average voter -- does the average voter care about this? >> well, we've got to remember that the average voter doesn't really have a say in this. this is down to the conservative party. so according to the rules of the conservative party, the candidates that get through to the first round are then whittled down to the final two. this is the stage we're at now. now it is not up to the members of the conservative party who are elected and represented in the houses of commons and house of parliament to decide upon this, it is now up to the broader members, of which there's more than 120,000 across the country, and they will get a chance to know these candidates better in these hostings taking place up until the 6th of july. we've already had one. we've got another 15 to go. and it's interesting that you picked up on the audience response here to that question. both versus the questioner, ian