they felt that there's been a push over the last 40 years to make it more like the united states and europe. so it would feel a bit like if you were potentially an american voter who had agreed to join with canada and mexico in a free trait agreeme trade agreement and suddenly you discovered there's a city outside your own country with its own parliament passing laws and telling you what to do. so to them it felt like an independence movement and like any independence movement ultimately people don't care too much about the economics. >> do you think we are entering into a world of greater nationalism, protectionism? >> ironically, in the british context, not protectionist. they're national radical free tradists. they want to open up to singapo singapore. they want deals with the united states. they want deals with china. they're sort of free market fundamentalists. they're not like donald trump. but i think what is like the