to maybe taking staff advice or learning what is okay to say, what is not okay to say? >> joe biden is going to be the person he's always been. and it's ultimately an asset, the fact that he speaks from the heart and off the cuff. sometimes he says things that political strategists or a communications director would say don't say it that way, say it this way. here's the choreographed talking points. that's not who he is. i do think people like him for that. there will be other occasions as there has been in the past where he says things that people say he shouldn't say that because it's outrageous. but if you know him and know his record and understand what he's saying, i really think that this isn't what it's being made out to be. >> you now are working for amazon, a senior vice president of global corporate affairs. it's very much in the news right now because amazon has fired back at congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez after she accused amazon of paying its workers starvation wages, which amazon