released were black americans. >> first step act was a real thing. >> historic lowes for black poverty. this is a president who has won for black americans. if you want to keep bringing up central park 5, it didn't work in 2016. it won't work -- >> the truth may not work in a campaign. it doesn't mean it's not the truth and it shouldn't come out. he hasn't changed his position. you're making a mistake eating your own, maybe i'm better for those people than their own. >> no, first of all, we're in a primary right now. there are 24 candidates in that race. it is incumbent on us to pick the best candidate that can actually take on trump effectively. the most electable one and the most electable one is going to be a populist progressive who says i'm actually going to deliver higher wages and health care, all the things trump promised you, but was totally lying about t. >> but he did. he picked up the fastest pace -- you're entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.