meet with the victim of the shooting and of course it is the right move to go to south bend, to cancel your campaign activities, to deal with your duty as the mayor. but he's got a lot of questions to answer, still, i think, and a lot of people in the african-american community will be looking at this particularly and people who are progressives who aren't african-american, as well, to see how he handles it. there's already questions about his demotion of the police chief, boykin, i only know that because his name being the same as mine, and now you have the question, because we're discovering the police officer in this case didn't have body cams on, if he did have them on, they were turned out. and mayor pete did make a big announcement about the police officers did have body cameras in that city. so, there's going to be questions about how policing is done in our country and he's going to have to answer that. it will be a test case for him. >> can i just say, so, just a couple things here, you know, mayor pete has always also been