because it's where a lot of the people in our business just eat their lunch on a daily basis. but unfortunately, wolf, what i think a lot of the focus at the white house who work for this president have forgotten, they don't work for the trump organization. they work for the american people. they don't work for just one president, they work for the presidency of the united states. and i think several officials over at that white house have lost sight of that. >> the president today once again accused journalists, serious journalists of making up sources, not really having any sources. how do you deal with that? >> you know, wolf, the president knows that that's false. and we talk to officials all the time on background. we talk to kellyanne conway and sarah sanders and sean spicer on background. they go on background from time to time to -- >> and tell our viewers what "on background" means. >> "on background" means they'll give us information and even quotes, but say, you can't use my name because i can't talk about this on the record. as a matter of fact, i talked to one national security official for this administration who said on background to me that said, i can't tell you why the president of the united states is so cozy with vladimir putin. when i asked this official this, he said, i don't know why.