gerrymander districts, change the way districts are drawn, have districts that are less s hispan hispanic, less minority. because fewer people who are not legal would answer a census. why would they? they would be afraid and they say this is supposed to be a count, this is a population count, it is not about anything else. >> by the way, i'm an alum of the voting rights section in the doj. over 50 years, there was never a need in order to enforce the voting rights act to have that question on the census. it is only intended, if you think about it in a full context of an administration that says, we would like to crack down on undocumented immigrants in the united states, how about giving them a block-by-block idea of who's in what area. in over 50 years, no one's needed it for that reason. so why now? why you? why this? >> everybody, stand by. there's a lot more we need to discuss. much more on the breaking news right after this.