helicopter in new york, and yet the rules for helicopters allow it as long as you remain clear of the clouds. perhaps in this case, and as long as you're going at a speed which allows you to avoid collisions because helicopters can hover and move slowly, they have more liberal rules for visual flight rule flying. and so this might have been technically a legal flight. but if the pilot got disoriented and in the clouds lots of trouble can happen in a place like midtown manhattan. >> how can you fly with the ceiling at 500 feet, period? >> well, you fly low and helicopters are designed to fly low to try to fly across midtown man hat within a ceiling of 500 feet is a fool's errand, of course. was this person trying to thread his way across central park or trying to fly on the rivers? there are all kinds of