they will not be with us again for a 100th anniversary of this, obviously. and donald trump had to go and make it about donald trump. we even had rona mcdaniels say that this should be about celebrating president trump. it was just one more outrage on something. and this is the kind of big moment americans should all be able to come together on, and he made sure we couldn't. >> yeah, this is -- on occasion when he does speak, he's expected to speak for all the people, to be a uniting force, to be the president of the united states and not a partisan. and so, for some -- he robs himself of his own dignity when he goes through this, and it diminishes us in the eyes of the world. >> i will note, he was not the only one sitting there. someone decided to ask him those questions. somebody decided to set it up like that. david gergen, rick wilson, thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you. >> thanks, john. we have more ahead tonight. next, the latest on the breaking news on the tariffs and the talks now going down to wire,