she doesn't want them to look like they're going off the rails after trump. and, you know, i think there are others in the party who feel the way she does which is better to focus on defeating him in an election and then if there are crimes for him to be indicted on, let him be indicted. but let's not make this a political circus, which is, like, let's face facts. impeachment, in the end, is a political act. let's do that through elections if we can. >> april, you said what about checks and balances? and what about those things . listen -- >> that's true. >> when you think about it, nancy pelosi is in a very interesting position here because there are members of her party who are calling for impeachment. appears to be a growing number. >> yes. >> she's saying no. now you have the house judiciary chairman, jerry nadler, privately pushing her to open an impeachment inquiry. she didn't budge. what is going on here? what -- what is going to happen? where's the momentum going? >> well, the momentum is for