points here. first of all, if you want to quote the supreme court, 1989, graham v. conner, which was the objectionable reasonable standard for police in excessive use of force. if you take somebody into custody and rough somebody up, what should a reasonable officer in that instance do? that applies here, too. a reasonable officer would not have waited outside for 45 minutes while young children were being gunned down. >> there is no reverse precedent. >> chris, i'm with two lawyers, you are absolutely correct. it needs to be looked at. number two, cops are different from anyone else in the sense of courage. we do the same things. mark twain once said the famous line is "courage is not the absence of fear, it's the mastery of it." 1.3 million of us in a country of 335 million are cops. i was scared every single time i banged in a door, every single time i went after an armed fugitive and every sickle time in a barricaded hostage situation. last point is this. we look at policing like we do