specific benchmark are you going to be looking at to see if mexico is actually doing what you want them to do, you want them to secure the border with guatemala, stop smugglers, work on asylum reform. in april 100,000 crossed the border. you say the number is higher in may? >> it will be higher. >> would it need to be 50,000 as opposed to 109,000 from april. >> i think what the president said, we need a vast reduction in the numbers crossing. i outlined three things i'd like to work on with mexico, one, interdictions on their southern border, going after those transporting these migrants, keeping them in horrible conditions through mexico, and number three, partnering and coordinating on asylum and how we treat people that actually need protections coming from central america and elsewhere around the world. they're safe in mexico, they're able to apply in a full and fair proceeding. mexico has reached out and