>> we're supposed to be here and the one thing people can trust. if you go out there like a bunch of knight riders what are you but just another vicious street gang. >> that was a core group of brilliant people. >> the audience's demands were changing. >> obvious television has changed a lot since the first emmy was awarded 35 years ago. >> it's as though the contemporary audience yas westerning for more stories about themselves. >> as the '80s came to an end, everything changed. >> when we look back at the 1980, 10 and 20 years now, we will be disgusted at some tv you just mentioned, the violent programs but one great thing happening now and will happen increasingly throughout the decade is the replacement of rotten entertainment programming by news and talk and information programming on all three networks very slowly. >> will it be rotten news?