emotionally. but guess what, no one remembers when he backs these policies back. the base just remembers how they felt emotionally, that trump was with them. mr. adams says, mr. trump is basically crazy like a fox, he's kind of playing chess and we're all playing checkers. we have never had a leader of the free world so adept at manipulating and being persuasive from this emotional perspective. and it is really, really dangerous. i hope it works out, because i'm very patriotic, but if the market tanks, i think there trump is going to have a big problem in 2020. >> ravin gandhi, thanks very much for making time to be with us, we appreciate it. >> thanks a lot. up next, we'll be back in virginia beach as the investigation continues into the mass shooting that killed 12 people there. what we're learning about the gunman and those harrowing moments as police first responded to the scene. >> there will be six victims, i got one survivor. south corridor. i have a male victim with gunshot wounds to the face, he's