impeachment if our public polling approaches similar numbers? >> yeah, i think polling's going to matter a lot but, remember, it's really all about television. and as much as we do on cnn to cover things, it's one thing if it's everybody's covering nobody expected john dean to come forward. nobody realized that the white house was even -- nixon was having a taping system. so the -- by impeaching trump you would find a lot of new information that could be very damnable in the end. but remember, bill clinton may have rose and surprised people after being impeached. but in 2000 al gore didn't want to be seen in a photo frame with bill clinton. he ran as president distancing himself. we see that as a mistake but there is a cost you pay. >> al, doug was, this was a great conversation thanks for joining me. >> we'll be right back. -♪ just like any other family ♪ the house, kids, they're living the dream ♪ ♪ and here comes the wacky new maid ♪