because listen, we're divided now. how's he going to break this impasse we have been at for so many years with the nra? congressional republicans. so opposed to passing any legislation that would restrict gun ownership. >> one, i think you have to lead by example. but while he was in the white house with president obama, president obama appointed him as the head of the white house task force on gun violence. they took executive action, probably over two dozen actions to implement some gun reform. now, they proposed some of the most sweeping gun reforms in our history. however, you're right about that. so i think that the deadline -- i think what you have to do, one, is lead by example. two, and use the bully pulpit of the presidency for good. and that means directly taking on the nra. but also, i think that you just have to make sure that you're addressing it in every manner that you can. and i believe that his body of