got to testify and got to answer questions beyond what's in the written print. >> i do agree with the idea that this is going to cause democrats to want even more so than before, mueller to testify and to testify publicly. >> yeah, if you look at this within the context of the entire mueller report, there are other instances in which mueller said that president trump or his lawyers dangled pardons or said to michael cohen, for instance, before he started cooperating with the government, the president has fond feelings towards you. and after he started cooperating with the government, the emotions sort of change and it became much more acrimonious towards michael cohen. so i think there's a sense from democrats that they need to find out more about what the president was doing, whether or not he was trying to influence the investigation. you remember, there was this scene where president trump let everyone get out of the oval office and then talked to james comey and said, i hope you can let flynn go. that was another episode where bob mueller said, this could be obstruction of justice. >> but bar disagrees. >> two people were in that room. jim comey and the president of the united states.
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