and what were the terms? that's where things begin to get fuzzy. >> from wnyz studios, this is trump, inc. >> journalists at wnyc radio have been investigating trump businesses for more than a year. >> trumping is a podcast and a reporting project to uncover the secrets of the trump family business. >> secrets because the trump organization fights to keep business details private. case in point -- >> the only one that cares about my tax returns are the reporters. >> the president's battle over his tax returns. >> and no lawyer would tell you to release your tax returns while you're under audit. >> if the trump organization was a public company there would be years of detailed information available. that doesn't exist. in fact, the only financial documents trump has released publicly are the basic financial forms required of all