to have no conversation. you know this as well as i do. what the president says, i'm not bothered by it, is sort of different from what might be happening behind. he's saying i'm in a process. i don't understand when they went to hanoi and kim jong-un said here's the framework and he walked away. so this is a negotiation going on between these guys. >> right. >> i assume this thing that just happened is kim jong-un saying let's go back into conversation. then notice that trump said i'm not in a hurry. behind the dog and pony show of the president saying that is the deeper reality of what's going on there s. >> i want to press you on this. this is a matter of war and peace. sounds like you are backing the conversation. what i want to press you on. if you were president would you press north korea to denuclearize, yes or no? if so, how? >> absolutely. absolutely. this is an example. if you look at what happened