it's pretty complicated. if only i could think of a comparable analogy for christian, catholic, methodist and lutheran friends. forget it. >> the thing about the muslim community is there's not actually a muslim community, like, in case the fact that there isn't peace in the middle east is any indication, not all of us like each other. >> yeah. >> a whole lot. >> yeah. and you recently came out of the closet being a bisexual. >> yeah. >> zara's openness, honesty, and bravery, is why so many people relate to her on the podcast. to me, and the rest of her friends, she's a progressive social justice activist living her version of what it is to be a good muslim but to some strict orthodox believers, those things plus the fact she's bisexual and married to an atheist make her a bad muslim. so, looking ahead, like -- >> maybe, like, don't say so much about my muslimness. >> okay. is that what's going to happen under the new era of america where we sort of like --