the 1924 law. i just think this is another twist in the story. and it's not going to hold up in court anywhere. en and they're going to proceed ultimatery the ways and means committee is going to get the tax returns. >> jim, let me ask you obviously the memo, draft memo seems to say executive primeval in this case would be the only way for the president to not do that but it's untested. it would probably go to the supreme court as josh was saying. is there any question in your 19 that the president would exert executive privilege in in case or are you not sure? >> i think, look, john makes good points. but one thing we can grow on, john a lot of times two lawyers don't agree that's why we have courts to sort it out. but what i think is interesting, though, is the argument that this was -- law was passed in 1924 following the teapot dome scandal and that involved broib are you happening during the administration. and the intent as a result of that, the intent of the law was