think a lot of people tune into this network who tune in in good faith. >> i want to ask you about this. criticism for pete buttigieg for doing the town hall. trying to split the difference and going after fox anchors in a primetime special. >> i thought it was smart for him honestly. you know, i don't know home committed democrats are watching fox news, but there is an echo chambers, and he went into the lion's den and he criticized the president. he criticized some of the anchors for what he said and president tweeted about it and told fox news that he's the chief programmer i guess at fox news and criticized fox news for putting him on which is exactly what he wanted. >> that's what i want to get to. the president tweeting out hard to believe that fox news is wasting air time on mayor pete as chris wallace likes to talk to him. fox is moving more and more to the losing wrong side of covering dems. he went on to say fox news