it is a win for the president. obstruction is a little messier when you read this. however, bill barr, his attorney general, essentially exoneratinexonerates him. >> and rod rosenstein. >> who i was told is staying on as sort of a heat shield for bill barr. bill barr is this hand-picked attorney general who wrote a memo saying that the obstruction probe was fatally misconceived. so now this new chapter is a fight over disclosures from the report. the white house has been bracing for this. it knows the order of battle and is preparing for a subpoena fight with the democrats who have already threatened that. also, pardons. what is the president going to do? his attorneys have said that once this probe is over with, that is when he's going to look at pardons, consider them. you heard him today say a lot of people were hurt through this investigation, as shimon pointed out. raises the question, what's he going to do next? >> the whole issue of pardons clearly coming into focus. the president said a lot of people have been hurt in this illeg illegal takedown.