were evan perez, that he mike indict indicted, people want to know that. the democrats could overreach, but you have to see what's in the report. >> and the white house knows the order of battle here. for months they were expecting this, that bill barr would release the statements, and they had been doing the reserve looking at precedent, and the white house expect a federal judge making the decision on this. >> the white house lawyer answered questions in writer, but never appeared orally and never answered any questions. >> that's a huge win. they were able to muzzle the president and only give a vetted answer. it was discussed in the court of public opinion and he avoided that, as did his son, by the