>> i want to hold that thought. but i just want to get to this. the book is called "kushner, inc." do you think they have broken any laws? >> the fact that it was really jared and not the president behind the closure of the white house logs in the first spring of the transition. and it was said at the time that that was don's for security reasons. but actually what my book shows is that it was really don because jared kushner was networking, doing all sorts of things that cause an outcry. he was meeting with the then ceo of goldman sachs, an investor in