to say, you know, i agree with joe biden, but i'm 30 years younger and, you know, more -- could do all of these things. so i think it's going to be really interesting shaking out over the next couple of months. and i would suspect by the summer if we look at the iowa numbers we're going to have a much better idea of, you know, sort of what the contours of the race are. >> rachel, it was so interesting we had harry enten on last hour where he showed us the continuum of where all the candidates are idealogically on the spectrum and joe biden and beto o'rourke are right next to each other as most moderate. so does it announcement by o'rourke change biden's colonel cue lous? >> joe biden is clearly not there. his top officials say he's 95% in. but obviously his heart is still in those last 5% so he has not jumped in yet. the interesting thing about beto is he's able to sort of bring up all this new jersey and really