sentence, his bail being revoked. she's going to punish him for the crimes he's guilty of. she's going to base that on relevant conduct, and there's a lot of other relevant conduct to consider, and i think you might even hear the ten years come out initially, but then she's going to mitigate that some, that's my speculation, and i think he's going to end up looking at additional time, maybe three or four more years than he's got. that's my guess. >> shan was closer than anybody when it came to predicting judge ellis's sentence before, so i would listen very carefully here, like the showcase show down for paul manafort. david gregory, shan wu, thank you. it's a 9:30 court appearance. stay with cnn because this will unfold throughout the morning. meanwhile, joe biden and beto o'rourke are sending the strongest signals yet about 2020. what are they waiting for? we discuss next. biopharmaceutical researchers.