of hope for the rest of the world as it always has been. momentarily, we're going through an anomaly that has taken place in 2016. and i am certain that america's decency, america's leadership, will prevail. >> i appreciate your time and my best to your family. thank you. joining us is usa today columnist kiersten powers. michael caputo, and max boot. "washington post" columnist and author of the corrosion of conservatism, why i left the right. max, i don't even know what to ask. but why do you think this -- is it just he's trying to gain leverage in negotiations and not alienate kim jong-un for the greater good? i guess that's one argument. but the negotiations have broken down. he seems to genuinely -- there's ways to not alienate kim jong-un and continue negotiations or continue involvement without