korean dictator over the death of american student otto warmbier back in 2017. >> he felt badly about it. i did speak to him. he felt badly about it. he knew the case very well, but he knew it later. he tells me that he didn't know about it, and i will take him at his word. does it make sense to you that this president seems to constantly take authoritarian leaders at their word whether it's vladimir putin or kim jong un? >> not only does it not make sense but i think it's pearliou to do this as a matter of practice and i might say in this case, having had some experience with hostage releases in the last administration that the north korean hierarchy is very aware of the status of those. >> didn't know about it