alan weissleberg, alan garton of the trump organization as well. >> thank you very much for your testimony. mr. chairman, this is a story of redemption. >> thank you, ma'am. >> mr. comber. >> mr. cohen, in your testimony you stated that you began work for the trump organization as a lawyer dealing with real estate transactions, is that correct? >> that is correct. >> prior to coming to congress, i served as a director of two different banks. i've seen hundreds of loan applications. to try to determine your credibility here today, i just wanted to ask you a couple of real estate transaction questions just to see how in fact you operate. during to the southern district of new york prosecutors, you lied to banks to secure loansly debt you were carrying. was it donald trump's fault that you knowingly committed a crime of deception to defraud a bank? >> no, it's not. >> was that fraudulent loan you obtained for the trump