gaetz among them. he has a lot of tools to gather electronic evidence of those things. this is a significant moment in the russia investigation. >> garrett graff, you have a book called the threat matrix where you have been connecting these dots for us and everyone for months now. what do you see in michael cohen's testimony today? >>? >> yeah, think jim is right to draw our attention to that summertime frame. because part of what is significant about the idea that the president might have been aware of the july release of the wikileaks as opposed to the september and october fall wikileaks events is that that changes the whole timeline for the summer and how these plots could have unfolded. remember you have the late july comment that the president makes publicly that has always puzzled us that has been cited in the president's -- in the special counsel's indictment of russian military intelligence saying russia, if you're listening, please hack hillary clinton's