policy for america. tom countryman, a pleasure to have you back. welcome. welcome, sir. >> thank you, brooke. >> all right. so letters aside, the first summit between these two may have been more of style over substance but now the pressure's really on, right? to walk away with something tangible both for trump and for kim. >> yeah. pressure is on. and i think it is not just optimistic but possible, conceivable that there will be a significant step forward, that both the united states and north korea will do something significant that advances the process and at the same time they agree to an intensified negotiation process below the level of the national leaders. >> progress, tom -- hang on. can you be specific? what kind of page progress are you counting on? >> according to press reports, there is at least hope that from the north korean side there will be a commitment to decommission