americans. >> let me say bacari is the correct on the numbers, the problem with democrats is the president is won by electoral college and not popular vote. but look at the shift we have seen in the democratic party in 2018, we had more moderate democrats like claire mccaskill or joe donnelly. they're no longer there. democratic voters did not come out and support them. in exchange we're seeing the party shift further to the left, and kamala harris may not like the title but if the shoe fits, wear it. the policies many of them are embracing and supporting and not running away from are the socialist policies that don't work in other countries and if they want to push those here, it's not going to be a winning formula in 2020. >> we have to see what the voters have to say. we have a year to talk about this so i'm sure we'll have this conversation many times more between now and then. alice stewart and bacari sellers, thank you very much for being here. appreciate it. a quick programming note, don't miss wolf blitzer's town hall with senator bernie sanders