those allegations, those accusations. it's hard enough and this is denial. >> we're in black history month, right? there was a long documented history of white people accusing black people. as far as women within white people, that's different. there is a long history of this. all i'm saying is if it's going to damage the credibility, you would think it would be across the board, and i can tell you as a black lgbt person, the credibility is already damaged. it's hard to prove a hate crime in general, so that comment from the chicago pd was just disturbing to me because that's just not true. >> i tell you, i appreciate the conversation from both of you because i think there are broader lessons to be learned from all of this. and it's such a complex issue. so clay, thank you for being on, s.e., thank you for joining us. we really appreciate it. remember to watch on saturday night at 6:00 eastern for "s.e. cupp unfiltered."