in charge of the sdny investigation has a lot of democrats demanding to know whether whitaker told the truth in his testimony before the house judiciary committee. congressman eric swalwell is on the committee and he joins me now. so good to have you here. >> yeah, don, thank you very much. >> what do you think of this "new york times" report? >> i never thought the acting attorney general was worthy of being taken at his word and that we should test his accounts, you know, that he gave us, because it was contradicted by "the new york times" and other press reporting. and now this story today shows that we need to get him back in. we probably need to hear from other witnesses and subpoena other documents. >> if these allegations are true, is that obstruction? >> oh, geez, obstruction was like ten exits ago with most of these characters. yeah, it's really, what can we do to intervene and make sure that, you know, the rule of law, which is the long pole in our tent of democracy still stands. at this point, don, we have to just make sure that rule of law is standing. and how do you interdict? >> so let me ask you, do you