idea. child care is something very concrete to american families who are spending over $7,000 a year for their kids in this age bracket. this is a little like social security or medicare. big idea, there will be a cost, but it's something that every person, red state, blue state, can understand what it would mean to them. >> she has been consistent on this for years. she has talked about sort of this two-income problem for years she has said -- you know, there are those who look at the labor force participation rate, how many people are not in the labor force because they cannot afford to work. >> it's a massive problem and touches all parts of the family? republican and democrat. >> president trump is building a wall and using his power to do that and a she's going to draw a contrast and say i will use my power to help solve this healthcare -- child care crisis that we all face. so i think this could be actually a very winnable issue. >> we will see how it plays out. julian, thank you so much. >> nice to see you, julian. >> we appreciate it.