i talked to this source just a few moments ago, and i don't want to get everybody too optimistic here, because we know how washington works, but this source who's pretty plugged in says that right now there is reason to remain optimistic, positive, hopeful. i know these are words that weapon don't throw around very often here in washington, but the takeaway from a lot of these people in the room right now is that things are moving forward. the key question in all of this, anderson, is that what the president does if and when a bipartisan compromise is reached. there are only nine days to go before another government shutdown. the president wants this wall on the border. and as we know, in the past, with the past shutdown, if he didn't get that wall funding, he was going to essentially shut down the government. and so that is the big, looming question. if they reach something, and there's a good feeling that they might reach something, and there were talks this weekend at camp david with mick mulvaney, the question at this point is what does president trump do, aerp anderson. >> it also seems like for the president in particular, how much of a wall or a barrier is