and then doing direct talks with north korea. now, i don't think that his intelligence team is outright saying that that's not going to be successful. they're trying to give us some context of the intent of the individuals -- >> well, they're saying there's no evidence that there's been any halt in north korea's nuclear situation, which, of course, is counter to the president's belief, which i think we both know and our viewers know, is that his personal connection with the person can supersede -- >> we have had a halt in tests, that i think has been important break. and that hopefully -- because, again, we all have the same goal here. and we want these negotiations to be successful. >> right. >> but in order for them to be successful, you have to go in with that certain level of skepticism, knowing that north korea does not wish to do this and that this is going to take a full-court press. >> fair point. so when "time" magazine is reporting two intelligence officers are saying, look, when hay go in, they are now told to not tell the president anything that contradicts his personal point of view. so don't give him the