african-americans, we have journeyed through this country for many years, objecting to and fighting caricatures of us in a negative light. the naacp, one of the biggest things we took on was against "birth of a nation" which had individuals in blackface. the naacp understood what it went when ronald reagan went to the county and the message it sent. we understand lee atwater and willie horton. we understand the influence fox news has had, and glenn beck. we understand the environment in which he existed. it's an environment that he should have none better or acknowledged the wrongness of that activity well before now. >> have you had a chance to speak to northam? >> i have not spoken with northam. our state president in virginia has spoken with him. and our position is the same. we think it's time for him to resign. >> what do you want to say to him? >> well, you know, whether he