the inf treaty has been developing missiles of similar range and capability on their own. the argument that the administration is making is, look, the treaty binds us. it's not binding russia. they're violating it. it keeps our hands tied in meeting the threat from china. it's about both. >> one of the questions you could ask and this gets to china, the idea that china is doing this in a way that the united states can't stop it is what is the use of a bilateral treaty, a bipolar treaty and a multilateral world? >> it's a great question, john. you have to remember the time and space in which the inf treaty was signed. 1987, ronald reagan, height of the cold war. there was only one other nation state on earth that we needed to protect against these kind of missiles. that was the soviet union, now russia. china didn't have the capabilities, the economic and military power that would have allowed them to develop it back