russian intelligence, the overall theory is conspiracy to defraud the united states. who was involved in the conspiracy assisting russian intelligence, conspireing with them in terms of trying to effect the 2016 election. so we are continuing to see. we haven't yet seen americans or individuals affiliated directly with the trump campaign charged in that conspiracy. >> right. >> the investigation is not yet over and the stone indictment takes us closer to understanding the facts of people closer to the campaign being knowledgeable at least about what was going on preor post some of these releases. >> and do you think it is ultimately leading the a place where somebody will be charged with conspiracy or do you think it is possible it will be processed? >> i think neither. there is a case the special counsel will put together cht